Creationists: can we clear things up a little here?
Author: Stefanie Jenkins
Question by Comrade Abdul: Creationists: can we clear things up a little here?
Darwin did NOT recant on his deathbed.
There are PLENTY of transitional forms around.
There are PLENTY of verified prehuman fossils.
Numerous dating methods have ALL aged the earth as many billions of years old.
There is NO evidence which conclusively proves that there must have been a global flood.
Experiments with a mixture of chemicals have led to the formation of semi-organic molecules, which, with a long enough timeframe, could go on to form LIFE.
An experiment with two groups of fruit flies caused a NEWS SPECIES to be formed, which was unable to breed with the old species.
There are NO serious biologists who support ID.
There is NO evidence which proved ID exclusively.
There is PLENTY of evidence which proves evolution exclusively.
It doesn’t matter whether you believe it or not, evolution is still FACT.
All of this is true.
You can continue to believe in Creationism if you want, but please don’t continue repeating the same old lies.
Deathbed:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_Hope#The_Lady_Hope_story
Transitional Forms:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transitional_fossil#Misconceptions
Prehumans:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution_of_man
Age of the earth
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_the_earth
Chemical experiment
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miller-Urey_experiment
Speciation experiment
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speciation#Artificial_speciation
That enough for you?
The entropy argument? Oh come on. It is perfectly possible to go against entropy if somehow more energy is constantly being inputted into the Earth. Perhaps it’s God doing it- but hang on, what’s that giant ball of gas in the sky?
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Dear, I point to the cross of Christ and the word of God. I don’t need to do anything else. What a person decides to believe is up to them.
Hey, just one misspelling (NEWS should be NEW).
However, I agree with you and no matter what kind of hate you get from this, you got one friend here.
Ditto
well done friend – let’s see how believers say it ain’t so
But the Bibles says….
you should understand too that creationists dont understand what transitional is
The holy rollers will not buy it, but good try. They are just dense my friend.
Just one correction, there is absolutely 0 proof of a global flood and many cultures around the world who went on living and recording history.
Mr. D, that boat on mt.Ararak held 46 million ( approximately 23 million species @ 2 easch) or so animals? Wouldn’t he also have had to collected all of the insects in the world, how did he track down all 300,00 species of beetles? What were they kept in shoe boxes? The ark of the bible would be bigger and I mean WAY bigger than any boats humans have ever built even with our modern technology, a wooden boat of that size would tear itself apart.
Well said. It’s really shocking that this is even an issue in the 21st Century.
Thank you! This board really needed that! I commend you!
You know, this is actually the first time I’ve visited the Religion Board and as I have read through the posts, I have been shocked by the so-called Christians and the RIDICULOUS things that have been coming from their mouths. It’s Christians like some of the people on this board that are giving Christians like me a bad name.
but….but….but…. GOD DID IT!
Creationism is like all the other arguments supporting religion, distorted, misleading, nonsensical, pitiful.
Good luck with that.
They aren’t really open to facts you know.
You can believe what you want, but even you can’t say evolution is a “fact.” Your evidence that you say is around is not entirely true. The Bible is the Word and what it says I will believe. God Bless.
Works for me.
Now watch them ask for proof that is not just a website…….
Since you make these statements as facts, could you provide citations for your findings, so us creationists can study them for ourselves.
Otherwise, your statement is not factual and therefore not credible.
“Keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called….”
PROOF OF THE TRUTH,I AM THE LIVING TRUTH AND NOAHS ARK ,WHATS LEFT ARE THE BALLAST STONES ON MT ARACK as your proof of a flood on top of a mountain
THANKS for doing such a GOOD job on nailing those unscientific heads-in-the-sand types’ hides to the wall. Bravo!!
Evolution is not fact. It is a belief just like christianity. All fossil evidence of human evolution has been proven to be, at best, contrived. There is no way to prove it and there is no way to disprove it. I’m here now and that is what matters. Find a new argument.
And I bet you were there to wittness it ALL, Hey do you want to buy my Swamp Land in Arizona, I’m selling it for $ 100.00 an acre?
Are you really that stupid? or are you just posing as an idiot to attract attention?
Darwin recanting?…debatable, but who cares?
Transitional forms?… none yet-check yourself out here!
Prehuman fossils?… no way-don’t make me laugh.
All dates over about 5500 years are in serious dispute.
Much evidence for the flood-you just don’t believe the facts.
No experiment has brought about life or pre-life.
Not “new” species, but deformed fruit flies-that could not mate
“Serious” biologist? Why serious??? Look around-dork
No evidence for evolution yet-no facts yet-just missing ones!
Evolution has never been a fact-can you be serious-like your biologist???
Follow this link to some “serious scientist”.
http://www.whoisyourcreator.org/images/Dissent_List_February_2007.pdf
please how do you get around the laws of thermodynamics? which says that nothing can not go from to disorder to order. here is a great qoute for you. and all your points are arguble. also the Miller experment has been shown to be wrong there was too much of a certain gas given that did not exist. also producing life needs to live under the laws of thermodynamics, which kinda kills the primal soup idea also. and no not enough
J. H. Rush states:
In the complex course of its evolution, life exhibits a remarkable contrast to the tendency expressed in the Second Law of Thermodynamics. Where the Second Law expresses an irreversible progression toward increased entropy and disorder, life evolves continually higher levels of order
Roger Lewin
One problem biologists have faced is the apparent contradiction by evolution of the second law of thermodynamics. Systems should decay through time, giving less, not more, order.
Jeremy Rifkin states.
The Entropy Law says that evolution dissipates the overall available energy for life on this planet. Our concept of evolution is the exact opposite. We believe that evolution somehow magically creates greater overall value and order on earth.
Evolution is a false religion and it has never been proven. There is absolutely no way anybody on this planet can ever prove that this earth is 4.5 billion years old. The Radiometric dating methods have been controversial from day one. Please do your homework.. Don’t allow yourself to be so gullible. Wake up! The information is all over the internet.That is totally absurd. Totally illogical. The earth is relatively young.
Have faith dear friend in God. Jesus saves, Jesus saves. John 3:16; Romans 10:9.
OK
I completely agree, evolution is a pretty established theory. Still i have to disagree with the “All of this is true.” part. Science is in constant change and we still have a lot to learn about how evolution act (the endosymbiosys theory to originate organelles like mitochondria and chloroplasts has a lot of holes for example).
Those are all details though, and I’m glad you got all those things straight, maybe some people will try to inform themselves better.
Paz de Cristo
THANK you for the links! I needed some stuff with which to beat my brother over the head!
(grin)
I heard on this one radio station that scientists exaggerate the ages of fossil
All I can say is that we Christians will still loveyou and pray for you that receive truth. But you are wrong. Only God can show you that as you arent ready to receive truth from any of us. YOu ask us not to reapeat the same lies No they are truth, but we could ask you to stop repeating your lies. YOu have your believes and we have ours, why do you need to come on here and insult Christians.
You mentoned at the end about the big ball of gas in the sky. ok bud, where did that come from. Can you explain it? Can you explain where all the materials came from that caused this big bang stuff.
ALl the other things you mentioned would take books to give you an answer, and you and other athiests wont believe us when we speak, we can only pray you will one day hear what God is telling you, and we do pray that. It doesnt matter whether you believe in creation or not, it is still a fact, and all of the things you mentioned, there are so many scientists that arent non believers that can show you evidence for the oppostie beief as yours. YOu see what you what to see. In the Bible , God warms us about false knowledge, false science so to speak, and HE says that if anything is contrary to His word, it is false and we are to flee from it. God says He created us, that settles it for us Chritians, and its not even just blind faiht. so many evidence contrary to all you said.
Plus the Bible prophecies are coming true, even as we speak, we see worldwide miracles still daily, and God confirms to us so much about what is happening in these last days. The lies of the devil will get stronger and lead even more to the devil. But, those that are born again, of the Holy Spirit will receive more annointing power of God and new revelation that will get them thru to victory in Jesus Christ.
Jesus saves. Jesus heals and delivers, and remembe ryou must choose FOr Him befor eyou die or He comes again.
choose soon and choose wisely my friend. And remember God is so eager to just forgive, But you must ask.