Panther Tank Maybach engine test
This is the first post-rebuild engine test of a 1400 cubic inch Maybach V-12 that spent 45 years submerged in a Polish river. After further testing this engine will be re-installed in the same Panther tank it was submerged inside of. Engine restoration crew: Jacques Littlefield, Greg Taylor, Bill Nahmens, Keith Boles, Dave Marian and Jason Pietz. Arnold Chaves of Dos Palmas Machine rebuilt the cylinder heads and provided technical assistance throughout the rebuild. Original camshafts re-ground by Spiro of Hot Rod Cams. The crankshaft, connecting rods and pistons were reconditioned by Babbitt Bearing. Carburetor bodies, floats and misc. parts supplied by Michael Gibb of the SDKFZ foundation. Special fittings, fasteners and fixtures created by Greg Matonis of Matonis Tool and Engineering. Crankshaft roller bearings reconditioned by Bearings Manufacturing Company. All gaskets laser cut by Advanced Laser and Water jet cutting. Carburetors wet flow tested at Ace Fuel Systems. This engine is part of the collection of the Military Vehicle Technology Foundation. For more information check out www.milvehtechfound.com
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This is absolutely beautiful. These gentlemen are incredibly lucky to touch that kind of history and we are all lucky that they are placing back in its original tank.
he left him hanging…
0:50 redemption…
@freedetheman he probably did most of the work to
@vukashin88 -continuation from the previous message – sorry, it couldn’t fit in previous one//
…To combat this, the Tiger’s top speed was reduced to about 38 kilometres per hour (24 mph) through the installation of an engine governor, capping the rpm of the Maybach HL 230 to 2600 rpm (HL 210s were used on early models).
@vukashin88
Early Tigers had a top speed of about 45 kilometres per hour (28 mph) over optimal terrain. This was not recommended for normal operation, and was discouraged in training. Crews were told to not exceed 2600 rpm due to reliability problems of the early Maybach engines at their maximum 3000 rpm output…
@nagmashot Oh, and just an additional piece of information I just stumbled upon (I forgot to mention it in detail)
Like I said, Panther’s engine was governed (as was Tiger’s) not to exceed 2600 RPM because of reliability issues, thus lowering it’s power output. Now the performance difference is even smaller (and in fact probably turns to the V-2 regarding torque – but don’t quote me on that, it’s just an assumption on my part). Follow to my second post for a citation.
@nagmashot There you have it, you said it yourself – a 52-ton vehicle (KV-2) burns much less fuel than a 44-ton vehicle (Panther).
So, what would the consumption be if Panthers were powered by a V-2? Certainly much less than it was with the HL-230.
@nagmashot I’m sorry, what? Huge amounts of energy required to produce it? Let me remind you that Soviet Union produced much more than 50.000 of those engines during the war. Compare that to some 8.500 thousand HL’s produced in the same time span. Case closed.
And do You think Soviets used Eurodiesel in their tanks either? I believe soviet diesel was even less refined than german gasoline, don’t you think? I’d label their diesel as equally shitty than german gasoline, if not more.
@nagmashot That ‘fact’ is a matter of horse power. More horsepower – higher top speed. And more torque – better acceleration, e.g. less time required to attain that top speed. It’s logical that with it’s lower horsepower V-2 couldn’t attain 55 km/h. But in all fairness, neither could HL-230 under normal circumstances. Remember that Panthers were governed to 46 km/h because of engine overheating (and final drive fragility).
@nagmashot
to see the effect of vehicle weight and consuption …the V-2 was build into heavy tanks there the consuption was extremly shitty..
to compare street consuption V-2-34 engine
T-34 100l/94km
T-34/85 100l/62km
KV2 100l/33km
Panther 100l/25km
if build into a similar heavy vehicle the consuption advantage was nearly completely gone! with the fact that the V-2 in a simliar heavy vehicle was NOT able to acclerate it to 55km/h like the HL230 could with the Panther
@vukashin88
the torque of both is nearly identical as is the weight, one fact the V-2 is made from expansive aluminium alloy which needs huge ammount of energie to produce, the consuption is hugely effected by vehicle overall weight a HL 230 in a 30to tank would burn much less fuel and a V-2 in a 45to hull would burn much more! More amazingly is that the HL230 delivered the power with shitty 74octan fuel. Higher fuel an oil quality would have boosted the perfromance and reduced consuption
@nagmashot But with a cost of a much higher fuel consumption per delivered hp and lower (or similar) torque ratings (which is actually more important for a tank than horsepower). And further still, that smaller size didn’t help german tanks from being oversized.
@vukashin88
similar perfromance? the W-2 were much weaker in perfromance only delivering 500hp the engine needed much more sapce. the Maybach was superior in perfromance delivering 700hp and was the best power/sice unit of all ww2 tank engines delivering the most power from the smallest space needed.
One of the relibilty problems of the Maybach engine was the extrem low oil/petrol quality Germany had during ww2
was good untill the HI 5 bit
That feeling after sucessfully starting up an engine and hear it run smoothly is a fantastic feeling. Its like creating a living, breathng lifeform with your own hands.
@vukashin88 Diesiel is more difficult to extinguish.V-2 engine was made of aluminum so quickly consumed.
Maybach engine was made of steel and cast iron so was more durable.
@predi888 Nah, the V-2 diesel series were better. More durable and a diesel (meaning less likely to catch fire) while punching out similar performance.
Could be a nice dragster eingine !!
Thank you Jaques for bringing these historical pieces to life. RIP.
hell
Best engine of war world II
Iv seen the tiger 131, they had another in the garage to restoring maby.
@Nigelmalibu me too
I’m planning on taking a trip to bovington tank museum this summer to go see the famous tiger 131